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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  JWFacts

  Second, AAWA's key objectives are not to reform the Watchtower. They are:

  I was referring to this on http://jwactivists.org/who-are-we/

  However, in order to drive its message home more effectively and forcefully, AAWA chooses to focus on five key areas in which the Society must introduce urgent reforms. These are (in no particular order):

  1. The shunning of relatives
  2. The mishandling of cases of child abuse
  3. The mishandling of cases of domestic abuse
  4. The stigmatization of higher education
  5. The ban on certain forms of treatment with blood

  AAWA extends an open offer to the Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society (or their representatives) to meet with AAWA to discuss ways in which the organization can introduce much-needed reforms concerning the above core issues.
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  Books for making a choice to believe in the Bible or not

  by Aunt Fancy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know some of you have referenced excellent books but i am not sure where to find them.

  i am looking for some very good books to give me the other side of not believing the bible.

  i am not sure where i stand at this point and would like to be informed.

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  Black Sheep

  Go to the library and look for books on critical thinking. After you have read them, you should be ok reading some of the recommendations you will get here.
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  Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?

  i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.

  seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?

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  Black Sheep

  As long as you appear to be a potential convert, the sun will shine out of your bum. Make use of this status to make them defend their worst doctrines.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  I don't think it is clever to throw people some slack when their choices/actions/inactions/whatever affect people who never signed up to their ideals.

  Their hearts being in the right place doesn't make it ok if they 'out' someone who is working from a different agenda to their own.

  Me ....

  I have no desire to 'reform' the WT. I want it gone. That is not AAWA's stated objective, and I do not want my name associated with AAWA by some dickwit's over-enthusiasm.
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  Do WT Bible NWT pick and choose word meanings to suit their agenda?

  by *lost* in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone offer thoughts on this.

  any examples.

  i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.

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  Black Sheep

  Please remember that you do not have to explain these discrepancies to your JWs.

  They need to explain them to you..... preferably .... while they still think you are a trooooo believer and are still salvageable from Satan
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  Do WT Bible NWT pick and choose word meanings to suit their agenda?

  by *lost* in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone offer thoughts on this.

  any examples.

  i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.

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  Black Sheep

  NWT Jeremiah 25:12?“‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘their error, even against the land of the Chal·de′ans, and I will make it desolate wastes to time indefinite.

  When was the king of Babylon punished? 539??

  Therefore, according to this scripture, when was the seventy years fulfilled? 539??

  Who was the punishment for? For the king of Babylon and his nation??

  What was the punishment for? For the guilt of the Babylonians??

  NWT Jeremiah 29:10?“For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon I shall turn my attention to YOU people, and I will establish toward YOU my good word in bringing YOU back to this place.’

  NIV Jeremiah 29:10 This is what the Lord says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.

  So, in this case, they have picked a translation thar supports their chronology, without providing any evidence that the translation they chose is correct, while failing to comment on another passage, Jeremiah 25:12, that contradicts the WT's chosen version of Jeremiah 29:10. The NIV's translation of Jeremiah 29:10 povides no contradiction, but trashes WT chronology.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  If someone added you to a group you didnt wanted to be part of.......you can always remove yourself from that group....

  That is a really good solution for those that know they have been added before the proverbial hits the spinney thing. I have my doubts that there wasn't a quick solution, like deleting the compromised account and starting over with better protection in place.

  How many don't know they have been added yet? Just because you check your FB every day doesn't mean every ex-JW does the same.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  truthseekeriam

  So who exactly should be worried about being outed? I'm kinda confused.

  The period between finding out the WT is a scam and being out, is the best chance to free your family and friends as they trust you and will still talk to you.

  Encouraging a waking JW to waste this period by outing themselves prematurely is not doing their families any favours and has the WT hierarchy doing the happy happy joy joy dance because one of their best tricks has fooled another leaver.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  Some of you seem to think that there are only two options, faded or out, but they are the Watchtower's preferred options because they both render you relatively harmless to them.
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  Getting serious for Julia!!

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no, there's no jc scheduled for me, though i've heard from a friend on the boe that the inquisitor is about to get inquisited himself.

  you will see who i mean in this thread: .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246766/1/julias-inquisition-two-elders-the-full-version-i-want-you-all-to-see-this.

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  Black Sheep

  Ask your husband to comment on this.

  Do not provide your own opinion

  http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2011/05/rapture.html